[Reading] ➾ Εἰδύλλια ➵ Theocritus – Motyourdrive.co.uk

Εἰδύλλια chapter 1 Εἰδύλλια, meaning Εἰδύλλια, genre Εἰδύλλια, book cover Εἰδύλλια, flies Εἰδύλλια, Εἰδύλλια e4c17a80e6a94 A Key Figure In The Development Of Western Literature, The Greek Poet Theocritus Of Syracuse, Was The Inventor Of Bucolic Or Pastoral Poetry In The First Half Of The Third Century BC These Vignettes Of Country Life, Which Center On Competitions Of Song And Love Are The Foundational Poems Of The Western Pastoral Tradition They Were The Principal Model For Virgil In The Eclogues And Their Influence Can Be Seen In The Work Of Petrarch And Milton Although It Is The Pastoral Poems For Which He Is Chiefly Famous, Theocritus Also Wrote Hymns To The Gods, Brilliant Mime Depictions Of Everyday Life, Short Narrative Epics, Epigrams, And Encomia Of The Powerful The Great Variety Of His Poems Illustrates The Rich And Flourishing Poetic Culture Of What Was A Golden Age Of Greek Poetry Based On The Original Greek Text, This Accurate And Fluent Translation Is The Only Edition Of The Complete Idylls Currently In Print It Includes An Accessible Introduction By Richard Hunter That Describes What Is Known Of Theocritus, The Poetic Tradition And Theocritus Innovations And What Exactly Is Meant By Bucolic Poetry


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  1. says:

    hadu ti to psithurisma, kai ha pitus, aipole, tena Some authors in Greek hold up incredibly well in translation Homer and the tragedians come to mind You lose a lot of what the poetry is about, of course, but the powerful essence of the content usually manages to survive in the skillful translation Not so, I think, with Theocritus Theocritus in English is like going for a swim with a three piece suit and expensive shoes He is one of those authors a poet, to be specific whose exquisite sound patterns and syntactical structures defy translation Just about everything that he is doing in Greek is lost in an attempt to convey it in English Oh yes, you will get the idea of what he wrote about when you read a translation, rather in the way that you can get an idea of what a Ferrari looks like from a picture of it But that is not the same as sitting in the driver s seat and driving one very fast.Theocritus is fascinating in the way that his poetry is one thing at first appearance shepherds piping under the shade of a pine tree, as a cool brook flows past and bees murmur nearby and yet another thing altogether when you look below the surface Urban v rural rich v poor rustic v sophisticated simple v complex artificial v real all of these polarities are explored in often subtle and mysterious ways throughout his corpus He wrote after the Greek city states had lost their political vitality his poetry thus reflects wholly different concerns from the works of the great tragedians or Pindar, the choral poet His poetry is strikingly modern in that it was written in an age where poetry had ceased altogether to have the fundamentally public function it once enjoyed.From a language point of view, again, translations cannot convey what he is doing in redefining the established contours of the Homeric hexameter or employing the Doric dialect Much of his complex artistry derives from the manner in which he has come up with something seemingly new while drawing at the same time on ancient language and poetic expressions that go all the way back through Attic tragedy to Homeric epic.All this having been said, this translation is as good as it gets.


  2. says:

    I really enjoyed this I could have lived without the encomia dedicated to Ptolemy and the Dioscuri, perhaps, but the early singing contests and the Cyclops serenade and the chatty exchange of the women at the festival and the idyll of the sorceress and the last two passionate poems addressed to anonymous young lovers by the poet in old age were beyond wonderful Especially the delicacy of the details, the scent of rennet, the type of gauzy garments the little distaff makes possible, the names of places and plants particularly I kind of liked the Idylls better than Virgil s Eclogues, in fact I need to go back and compare.


  3. says:

    Poetry is really not for me, but I m glad a sampled Ancient Greek poetry anyway I liked how different themes were touched throughout the 30 idylls in this book.


  4. says:

    Up to this point in reading ancient Greek poetry, I ve encountered verse that has struck me as interesting and beautiful, but the idylls of Theocritus are the first that I can say I ve truly loved These are lusty songs of life, desire, love, and loss Anthony Verity s translations are so vibrant that I felt at times as if I were reading slices of real life, even when the topics included mythical gods or ancient folk tales I think what draws me to Theocritus than other Greek poets is his bucolic poetry the focus on salt of the earth goatherds, shepherds, laborers, and common men and women These are not for the most part celebrating epic warriors or goddess like women As a scholar of American literature, I am reminded of everything from Whitman to William Carlos Williams to the short fiction of regional writers And I think that s the other reason I enjoy these poems they have the narrative thrust of fiction In fact, one of the books on my library reading list is Mark Payne s Theocritus and the Invention of Fiction, which explores these connections Even when Theocritus moves to mythic topics in his later idylls, he gives us brief, powerful vignettes that again have the feel of short stories Heracles killing snakes as a baby, the fight between Polydeuces and Amycus from the Argonautica, etc For me, this pastoral verse is the epitome of Greek poetry and, so than even the lyrical poets, the model of so much Western poetry to come.


  5. says:

    Still, Arab and Persian poetry kicks ass


  6. says:

    Come for the famous pastorals, stay for the poem of a girl performing witchcraft to gain back the affections of her lover.


  7. says:

    I enjoyed these idylls than I thought I would They were surprisingly funny and relatable, though written in the 3rd century BC I will certainly come back to read these again someday.


  8. says:

    3.5 5highlights idylls 1, 7, 13 and 16, and epigram 4


  9. says:

    Theocritus Idylls summaries of individual poems1 A goatherd asks Thyrsis to sing him a song in return, the former promises to give the latter an elaborately decorated drinking vessel ekphrastically descibed Thyrsis sings a tearful tale of Daphnis the cowheard s unrequited bitter love Venus mocks Daphnis Daphnis tells Venus to take a hike and then drowns, possibly of his own volition.2 The first mime Simaetha, a city dwelling spurned lover turned sorceress, tells the story of how she fell in love with Delphis, a gorgeous wrestler who spends most of his time at the gymnasium how she saw him walking by one day at a parade and nearly fainted with lust how she ordered her slave girl, Thestylis, to invite him to her house made love to him on their first meeting and was later deserted by him for another woman Determined to avenge herself on his alleged treachery, she mixes a magic potion that will draw her lover home to her again.3 a drunken goatherd serenades his lover from outside her cave He seems to be trying to coax her into forgiving him for some fault he d previously commited.4 idle shepherd s conversation.5 A goatherd Comatas and a shepherd the younger Lacon battle it out in a kind of insult match, seeing who can come up with the sharpest insults They recruit Morson the woodsman as a judge and referee, and after bandying back and forth the Ancient Greek equivalent of increasingly belligerent yo mamma jokes, Morson awards Comatas the prize a fat lamb.6 Daphnis and Aratus sing contrasting versions of Polyphemus love for the nereid Galatea Daphnis depicts him as a lovelorn moaner Aratus, as as a mischievous tease 7 Simichidas meets a celebrated singer, Lycidas, on his way to a festival and invites him to compete with him They each sing a song, and then Simichidas heads over to the festival.10 Stricken with unrequited love and unable to focus on his work, Bucaeus can t stop thinking of the Beautiful Bombyca Milon, the chief shepherd asks Bucaeus to take a break and sing him a song about his love, which Bucaeus then proceeds to do.11 Here we have another unrequited lover Polyphemous, who s extremely distraught about Galatea s indifference to him He begs her to join him on land and grieves over the fact that he can t swim down to her in the sea.12 A pederastic love song from an older shepherd to a younger one.13 The story of how Hercules lost his beloved squire.14 The second mime Here we have yet another unrequited lover a major theme, apparently, of the Theocritean Idyll Aeschinas has recently discovered that his beloved, Cynisca, is seeing another man, Wolf, and he s pissed He slaps her at a gathering, after she confesses in front of him Now he s trying to get over her but having a very hard time.15 The third and mime in the collection Gorgo and Praxinoa meet up and head to the palace for a festival being held in honor of Adonis.16 An encomium to Hieron II.17 Encomium to Ptolemy.18 A model example of the ancient Greek epithalamion this one s dedicated to Helen of Sparta on the night of her wedding to Menelaus.22 The Dioscuri relates two stories of the twin brothers, Castor and Polydeuces , valiant character and legendary strength In the first song, the poet sings of how Castor defeated a rude giant on a remote island in the second story, the poet sings of how Polydeuces fended off two men who unlawfully stole the fianc es of two other men.24 This idyll relates the story of Hercules childhood how he clenched two malevolent god sent snakes in his fists and grew up to be the strongest man in town Tiresias offers a prophesy of his future how he will complete the labours, etc.26 A wonderful supplement to Euripides The Bacchae This poem relates the murder of Pentheus by the Dionysian revelers he s murdered for spying on the rights from a treetop.29 An old man sings of his love for a young boy, although he s saddened that the boy is beginning to neglect him.30 Another pederastic poem this one morbid The boy s elderly lover counsels him not to grow too arrogant and grieves over the fact that he s nowhere near as important to his beloved than as his beloved is to him Another poem about unrequited love.


  10. says:

    I read about Theokritus as one of the earliest examples of pastoral poetry on a plaque in The Met Since I enjoy such modern lights of the prosaic as Whitman, Collins, and Tolstoy, I was inspired to consciously begin a genre collection Theokritos frames his sixteenth idyll explaining that, The Muses are gods Being gods, they sing of gods But we re men Being men, let s sing of men I feel this sentiment expresses the down to earth quality of all his poetry, which mostly praises such things as cows, fields, young love, and the agrarian life, with a sprinkling of heroic poetry dedicated to figures such as Hercules, Castor, and Polydeukes Even then, he presents these heroes as accessible, without taking away anything from their excellence For example, one of my favorite idylls tells the story of infant Hercules strangling serpents sent by a jealous Hera to devour him and his infant brother as they slept in a large shield on the floor of their house Much attention is given in the poem to their mother s fussing over them as to young Hercules miraculous accomplishment.


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