➜ [KINDLE] ❆ We Were Soldiers Once... and Young By Harold G. Moore ➦ – Motyourdrive.co.uk

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10 thoughts on “We Were Soldiers Once... and Young

  1. says:

    This Gives Life to TheeNo contentious politics, no military apologetics, no analysis of motives, or rationalizations of judgmental error, We Were Soldiers is a memorial to the soldiers of the Air Cavalry during their first battles in Vietnam The book reports almost every step taken by the two battalions involved in the week long battles of Ia Drang, mostly in the words of the soldiers on both sides who took those steps It is a humbling and heartbreaking chronicle of comradeship, suffering and frequent violent death Written without any conventional narrative and in direct journalistic prose, the book presents no message other than remembrance Consequently I think it is impossible to read without feeling awe at the courage and devotion to each other shown by these men.


  2. says:

    I was an Infantry Officer in the 101st Airborne in Vietnam, during the Hamburger Hill Firebase Ripcord period in the area of the Ashau Valley that, like the Ia Drang Valley, ate American units whole I came back disillusioned and angry as many did.But when I finished this book, I looked at my wife and said, If THIS MAN were to walk up to our front door, drop a rucksack and a rifle on the porch and say Follow Me, I would do it THIS MAN Lt Col Hal Moore is a leader who cares I was gratified some years later to learn that Hal Moore retired as a General Officer.I still would still follow Lt Col Moore The man did his best to safeguard the young lives who were entrusted to his care, and bitterly regretted every life that was sacrificed The first half of the book describes how Lt Col Moore s Battalion was dropped into the middle of an NVA Regimental Headquarters and the battle that resulted.Sadly, the second half of the book is a description of what happened to the battalion that was combat assaulted in to relieve Lt Col Moore s Battalion after the battle and was decimated because that Battalion was lead by a man who clearly did not care and was incompetent.This book was not an easy book to read, but it clearly deserves the five stars that I gave it.I am proud that I served and I am not saying that we should never go to war But I do feel that there should be a required reading list for anyone who wants to send young Americans to die on foreign battlefields and this book should be high on that list.


  3. says:

    This is the story of the Battle of Ia Drang and the first time United States ground troops went up against the North Vietnamese Army NVA in a pitched fight There are two parts to the engagement 1 U.S forces, using helicopter as mech calvalry, drop into a zone and are surrounded by a force that out numbers them 4 to 1 2 Troops march from here and move to another zone and are quickly ambushed and put in a truly desperate situation.The battle not only changed American soldiery s involvement by scaling up the bloodshed, but went further to entrench Washington policy maker s misguided approach to the conflict Beyond the fact that it was huge mistake to even be in Vietnam to begin with, supreme errors in judgment effectively made this a no win situation from the beginning a decisive military outcome would never be in the cards The heroic fighting men, laying down their lives, were caught in a vice grip squeeze between an angry public and dull witted foreign policy makers.The NVA used Cambodia as a staging area for its forays into Vietnam and because the U.S could not pursue thier mauled opponent into this nation, the NVA could recover and regroup The Nixon administration had no qualms about chasing enemy soldiers into Cambodia, but by then it was too late More proof that this was a no win situation the U.S army would free a region village from NVA control turn it over to the South Vietnamese, who would promptly let be overrun leading to a repetition of bloodletting and misery to re take it.In his book Moore does touch upon this, the larger picture, at the end, but it s the heroism and valor of his troops and the in battle decision making that make up the bulk of the book If you ve read Black Hawk Down, you ll appreciate Moore s stirring rendition of combat To his credit, Moore knows the sorrows of the battlefield don t end there and gives families of the fallen soldiers their say on the impact the war directly had on them at the end of the book.A sidenote Early in the conflict, the Army did not have a system in place for notifying families or even helping them cope with grief when their loved ones were killed in battle Telegrams were given to Yellow Cab drivers, who, not always sober, would deliver the tragic news to the next of kin.


  4. says:

    jedna od najboljih knjiga o ratu koju sam pro itao bez pretjeranog busanja u prsa i ma oizma, ispri ana iz perspektive vojnika koji su u bici u estvovali, a autori su se potrudili, oti li u Vijetnam i intervjuirali vo e druge strane, te u knjigu ubacili i njihovu perspektivu.Plus, samo da znate, film prikazuje samo prvi dio bitke.


  5. says:

    Moore s work is an essential reading for students of the Vietnam War While it covers only the 1965 engagement at Ia Drang, the work provides tremendous insight into this first major conflict between an American force and regular NVA forces, and the learning curve both sides had to climb during that short span The author s direct involvement in the conflict as the U.S forces commander, and his access to the individuals involved allows a gritty personalization of the actors and actions of the battle.The meeting engagement of an airmobile battalion and North Vietnamese ground units quickly descends into a fight for survival for the smaller U.S forces as they realize they have planted themselves into the midst of a much larger NVA division Surrounded and with no means of resupply or extraction except by air, the outnumbered U.S soldiers must hold their ground and fight for their lives until able to maneuver to safety.The reason Moore asserts Ia Drang changed the Vietnam conflict is that this battle is not only the first engagement of NVA regulars, this is the first test of vertical envelopment using rotary wing aircraft helicopters The lessons learned in this battle helped forge U.S doctrine for the entire war.Along with Charles MacDonald s Company Commander The Classic Infantry Memoir of World War II, this is an essential work on understanding the experience and dynamics of small and medium sized unit command.


  6. says:

    The book opens with five pages listing those killed in the Pleiku campaign in October and November 1965 when the War in Vietnam was just beginning to heat up And the Prologue continues along the same vein with descriptions of encounters with enemy soldiers and death The lead author, Hal Moore, was a Lieutenant Colonel in the 1st Calvary Division, one of the units at the front of the battle about which We Were Soldiers Once And Young is written The second author, Joe Galloway, was a UPI reporter who managed to work his way into the battle, complete with M 16 rifle long before imbedded was the common terminology As they say, both lived to tell the story And this is it.This is about what we did, what we saw, what we suffered in a thirty four day campaign in the Ia Drang Valley of the Central Highlands of South Vietnam in November 1965, when we were young and confident and patriotic and our countrymen knew little and cared less about our sacrifices In contrast to the intense, descriptive language of the Prologue and Chapter 1, The Heat of Battle, Chapter 2, The Roots of Conflict, delves into the background taking the point of view of both the Americans who were by and large new to Vietnam and the North Vietnamese People s Army, testing and evaluating the new American fighters whom they knew were supported by a new entry into warfare, the Huey chopper Key figures on both sides are introduced, including senior commanders of the North Vietnamese army Information about North Vietnamese plans and troop movements has been obtained by direct interviews with military personnel years after the end of the war as well as from captured war documents and prisoner interrogations during the war The hairiest part of any operation was always the air assault We had to time the flight and the artillery so close When the choppers were one minute out the last artillery rounds had to be on the way or you get Hueys landing with the shells We always sweated because if you shut down the artillery too soon the enemy could be up and waiting when the choppers came in This one was precisely on time First person accounts dominate Chapter Six, The Battle Begins Chapter Notes at the end of the book include documentation of the source of many of the details and quotes Throughout, there was the constant close in noise of rifles, machine guns, and exploding grenades and mortar shells You are there on the ground in the midst of the action and are introduced to the men who are fighting for their lives as well as those who lose their lives Some of them speak directly to you in the first person.Chapter Seven Closing with the Enemy The enemy on the mountain started moving down rapidly in somewhat uncoordinated attacks They streamed down the hill and down the creekbed The enemy knew the area They came down the best covered route Chapter Eight The Storm of Battle Suddenly the M 60 jammed Debris from the ground had caught in the ammo belt when Adams was hit I flipped it right side up, slapped the ammo belt back in, slammed the feed cover closed and began firing again It seemed like a lifetime, but it wasn t than five or ten seconds I don t know what the hell s happening I m out there by myself I m only a twenty year old kid I don t know what s going on I followed Russell Adams I m his assistant gunner so I go where he goes That s how I got up there While Doc Nall was there working on Russell, fear, real fear, hit me Fear like I had never known before Fear comes and once your recognize it and accept it, it passes just as fast as it comes, and you don t really think about it any You just do what you have to do, but you learn the real meaning of fear and life and death Chapter Nine Brave Aviators The Huey crews performed magnificently, running an enemy gantlet of enemy fire time and time again They never refused to come when called In turn, we did our best to call them only when fire was lightest, and we tried to have teams standing by to unload supplies and load the wounded in record time, to reduce the aircraft s exposure on the ground.And so it goes chapter after chapter Fix Bayonets Night Falls A Dawn Attack Friendly Fire Rescuing the Lost Platoon Night Fighters It Ain t Over Till It s Over A Walk in the Sun Hell Is a Very Small Place Death in the Tall Grass Escape and Evade, Night Without End The Sergeant and the Ghost.As one who has never been in a war, it is hard for me to understand how and why the men described in We Were Soldiers Once And Young did what they did Reading this book and others about Vietnam is my feeble way of trying to put myself in that position But I still don t understand The 17 page Appendix of the book is an effort to tell the story after the battle of those who survived What can be said in a paragraph about men who risked their lives and saw many of their friends die, often gruesome and bloody deaths How did those survivors support or oppose the eventual wars the U.S carried on in Iraq and Afghanistan It is easy to say that no one came home from Vietnam the same but hard to comprehend the enormity of that statement More than three million Americans served in the long and bitter struggle in Vietnam 58,000 Americans died.This is another book about Vietnam that was turned into a movie Made in 2002, it starred Mel Gibson You can make money off a war movie Joe Galloway, the UPI reporter and co author of the book, got a pay raise too From 135 to 150 a week His mother called it blood money And he thought she was probably right But not enough money for all the blood As he was being airlifted out of what they called Landing Zone X Ray, author Hal Moore thought As I looked down on the battle scarred earth and shattered trees below, I felt pride in what we had done, grief at our losses, and guilt that I was still alive P.S I often wonder as I read a book about war, something I have done often in recent years, if the author is anti or pro war How could someone be pro war you might ask Maybe it would be better to suggest that some writers have the point of view that war is inevitable and that, as a part of our world, it affords its participants the opportunity to be heroes and experience positive character development You know, camaraderie Bonding We Were Soldiers Once And Young includes the mandatory example of a soldier throwing himself on a grenade to save his friends And there is also the enemy going from body to body, killing those who are not yet dead while our hero pretends to be dead so survives We didn t do that Much Talk about something that leaves me scratching my head Diduryk, then twenty seven, had commanded this company since May He was eager and aggressive and yet totally professional over the next three days and nights he would emerge as the finest battlefield company commander I had ever seen, bar none He operated on the basic principle of maximum damage with minimum loss.No doubt Vietnam resulted in maximum damage But not minimum loss This book will make that obvious I give it four stars It held my interest even knowing what was going to happen It humanizes both the American and Vietnamese soldiers It has a definite ebb and flow of intensity, as you would expect in a book about pitched battles and the lulls between them While it focuses on the action on the battlefield, some of the repercussions for loved ones back home are effectively included At times I found myself reading intently through horrendous events just to get to the end of the book I felt like that during the actual war I just wanted to get through it to get to the end It took a long time for the end to come and for some it still has not come.


  7. says:

    I was at a fund raiser for a local VFW and I ran into an old, grizzled, retired master sergeant I asked the old veteran which war he fought in He said You ever seen that movie We Were Soldiers Well I was one of the soldiers and he proceeded to tell me about bodies stacked this high as he put his hand up above his waist and other amazing stories After thanking him for his service, I ran home and downloaded the book on my Kindle I absolutely loved the book and I especially liked how the author and 1st battalion CO, Colonel Hal Moore, allowed key contributors to each write their own narrative Even civilians on the home front and the enemy contribute to the overall story It may have made the story a little less cohesive at times but it sure made it a fun read Just keep in mind that when battalion size units become intertwined with other units, both friendly and enemy, in canopy jungle, events are bound to get confusing This story is about the Vietnam War at a time when the United States became involved in the War en masse The first major confrontation was in the Ia Drang when Hal Moore s 1st battalion, 7th Cavalry slugged it out with North Vietnamese and Viet Cong troops The 7th Cavalry boys called themselves the Gary Owens after the famed 7th Cavalry of George Armstrong Custer and the famous last stand at the Little Bighorn about 90 years earlier This was a new type of airmobile warfare and Hal Moore s battalion was highly trained They ran into problems prior to deployment as the short timers were sent home and many key billets were replaced with completely untrained personal Also, there was another accompanying battalion that had almost no training at all The Hollywood movie follows the first part of the book fairly close until the movie s end when Hal Moore played by Mel Gibson, led a ridiculous bayonet charge that never happened There was a second part to the book that the movie did not depict Moore s battalion was relieved by another battalion that marched in overland In this part of the story, the new battalion is moving in column through the jungle when they bump into enemy forces For some reason, all the line officers are called to the head of the column just prior to all hell breaking loose The officers cannot get back to their units In this part of the battle, US fared much worse than Moore s battalion Hal Moore s troops had to saddle up and relieve the other battalion.The North Vietnamese claimed that they learned from the fight in the Ia Drang and they took copious notes about how to beat the Americans The US Army said something on the order of that s BS All the NVA learned was that the politicians wouldn t allow Army units to hunt them down in their sanctuary in Cambodia This was another political mess and it was worse than Korea Enjoy


  8. says:

    Every time I read a book about a war, or a battle, or a military conflict which is written by someone who experienced the conflict first hand AKA a combat veteran, I feel the need to explain something before I begin my review I have found that when a veteran of combat writes a book about a particular battle or incident, that they write from their perspective AKA the rank they held at the time as opposed to their current rank or status Sometimes, they may add some recently acquired wisdom, but for the most part they only know how they thought and felt and acted within the role that they held at that time Therefore, if I refer to Hal Moore as a Lieutenant Colonel and not as a general, it is for this reason Based on the above statement, I should state that for whatever reason, ignorance or stupidity or whatever, I have found that usually, I only understand War from a Platoon or Company perspective I have read, understood, appreciated and loved multiple books by Lieutenants, Sergeants, and even Captains, but I have a much difficult time understanding higher ranking officers or larger military units This book definitely fit that pattern at times Colonel Moore described the battlefield, the perimeter, the strategy, the communication process, and administrative things in a way that sometimes left me flicking at my lips with my pointer finger Frequently he went off on an LTC tangent which he would explain better in a subsequent chapter Luckily for me, much of the story was told in short narratives by battle survivors I really understood and enjoyed reading about small group interactions such as the experiences of the lost platoon or interactions that occurred in foxholes I got a little lost when I read about the placement of companies around a perimeter, reserve units, command post operations, air strikes, artillery, and machine gun activity Luckily he included maps I did enjoy the tidbits of leadership insight despite the fact that I will never use them.I d like to add here that I have a personal fondness for battle maps Any maps will do really Squiggly lines and arrows drawn hastily on a napkin are fine with me I HATE books which attempt to explain a battle without providing any kind of visual clues whatsoever Because frankly, verbal descriptions of flanking manuevers, columns, and patrol formations are pretty meaningless to me Is the left flank on our left, or the enemies left LOL I guess I m not really the target audience, anyway I gave the book 5 stars because it is a classic and really quite wonderful despite my inadequacy as a reader.


  9. says:

    Since I m now reading the sequal I thought I d review the original book This is probably the best book to come out of the Vietnam war, and is a classic in terms of the view from the other side This is the battle where America took the plunge into the war and was the battle that the North Vietnamese used as a blueprint for their war against the Americans for the next 10 years.


  10. says:

    Every once in a while, a book comes along that really has an impact on me, and this is one such book Interestingly, I didn t know the book existed until 2002, 10 years after it was published I had heard of Ia Drang, though, from a good friend who was there and told me about the battles a couple of times when he got drunk It is the only time I ever heard him mention it, I think he had to get drunk to talk of it and he did so with tears in his eyes And just after I finished reading the book, I ran into another Ia Drang veteran who just two months before learned that a buddy of his had not died back in 1965 Both had been severely wounded and both thought the other dead This man told me that the longest period of his life was being put on a helicopter taking severe fire after being wounded I didn t say medevac helicopter because they refused to fly into LZ X Ray to pick up the wounded since it was a hot LZ The helicopters of the 7th Cavalry, designed to carry troops, flew mission after mission into incredible danger to bring in ammunition and water and take out wounded and dead Some of those pilots and crews didn t make it, either, but they saved countless lives while the medevac crews sat on their asses back in safety.The authors are Hal Moore, the commander of the battalion that fought at LZ X Ray Landing Zone X Ray and Joe Galloway, a journalist who was there Joe was one of the few good guys when it came to journalism in Vietnam.The mention of Ia Drang causes a grim gut reaction among people who know what happened there What makes it worse is that very few people have ever heard of it and fewer care It is one of those now forgotten battlefields with its warriors also forgotten If you will recall the movie Good Morning Vietnam, you might remember toward the end a bunch of happy looking soldiers sitting in the back of troop carrier trucks and Robin Williams asks them where they are going One of them says, smiling, the Ia Drang valley That was an insider anti joke Those smiling boys ran into hell in the Ia Drang This book is about the first major American contact with the enemy in what became the Ia Drang campaign.This book concentrates on firsthand accounts of two battles, but starts and finishes with historical and political musings, as well as the effects of war on the families back home.The first part is devoted to the history of the development of air assault doctrine, which was a completely new concept in warfighting, with a lot of promise for a place like Vietnam Essentially, this doctrine eliminates land lines of communication by inserting men and supplies into an area, keeping them supplied and extracting them by helicopter.One of the things that makes this such a powerful book is that every effort was made to let us know who these men actually were, including the lives they had led as civilians and introducing us to their families Some of them were three war men, those who had seen combat in World War II and Korea and now were going into another one in Vietnam Others were draftees, some with only days left in the Army when they landed at LZ X Ray on November 14, 1965, or arrived in the vicinity of LZ Albany on November 17.Hal Moore s battalion, the 1st of the 7th Cavalry Custer s old unit had a simple mission find the enemy and fight him see how well this air assault doctrine works They did not know what they would find accurate intelligence on enemy strength was nonexistent The battalion was understrength and had some 431 men and officers in the line companies.They landed in the middle of a regular Army North Vietnamese Division, well trained and fresh from their unimpeded journey from the north down the Ho Chi Minh trail in Cambodia LZ X Ray was ten miles from the Cambodian border, and the US was not allowed to breach that sovereign territory, despite its use as a safe haven for the enemy.What followed was three days of horrendous fighting Moore had time to set up a reasonable defensive perimeter as the fighting got started, even though they were in an intensive firefight before the entire battalion had been landed The exception was one platoon with a gung ho platoon leader that chased a North Vietnamese soldier to capture him and found themselves cut off and up against at least a battalion sized force The platoon leader, Lt Herrick, was one of the many KIA in that platoon, and Sergeant Ernie Savage, after two other men had taken Herrick s place and been killed, took over and held the platoon together.Meanwhile, the rest of the battalion was also in the fight of their lives, including an attempt to break through to the cut off platoon They had virtually nonstop artillery fire support from a location a few miles back, which probably saved them against these overwhelming odds They also had air support from the Army and Air Force, including one unfortunate incident when napalm was dropped on US troopers.In the end, the 1st of the 7th Cav prevailed and the enemy withdrew One machine gunner had literally killed hundreds of enemy soldiers single handedly Enemy and American bodies were everywhere The Vietnamese had systematically searched out and killed all the US wounded they could find during the nights This Vietnamese killing of wounded was even worse at LZ Albany.As Moore s battalion was cleaning up the mess at LZ X Ray, McDade s 2nd of the 7th Cav and another battalion, the 2nd of the 5th Cav, arrived to relieve the men who had not slept for 3 days On the morning of November 17th, these two battalions marched toward rear LZs for pickup, with McDade s battalion diverting, under orders, to LZ Albany It was supposed to be a walk in the sun McDade was an inexperienced battalion commander, having just recently been given his command His companies were strung out when they reached the outskirts of LZ Albany, a clearing in the forest Two North Vietnamese were captured, and McDade called his company commanders to the front to confer Only one of those commanders made it back to his company, and he did so only by reflex as the enemy attack broke out.This spread out battalion was cut to pieces, and only a small perimeter near Albany was able to mount an effective defense The book outlines in detail the horrors of this battle until reinforcements finally arrived the next morning.This book contains unbelievable gore, incredible heroism, and selfless sacrifice by men of every rank in the face of some of the most overwhelming odds ever faced by a small unit Much of it is in the survivors own words as they remember it This stuff makes most of the fictionalized accounts of combat by those who have never experienced it look positively silly This book also brings home the point indirectly that soldiers are able to separate politics from soldiering Soldiers care about each other and staying alive and, believe it or not for most, doing their jobs.The last part of the book deals with some politics and the effect these battles had on the families at home On the political front, Moore comments on the suicidal policy of not allowing the US to mount any kind of effective counterattack on the North Vietnamese sanctuary in Cambodia When Nixon finally bombed this country, it was too little too late, and American leftist war protesters once again made it clear that the lives of American soldiers were meaningless to them The men who fought and died in the Ia Drang would beg to differ, but their story has been one that many would like to pretend didn t happen.Some of the most touching parts of the book are the descriptions of the impact these battles had on those at home, particularly the families living at or around Ft Benning For example, the terror that the wives had of yellow taxis, which were used to deliver the Secretary of the Army regrets telegrams in the early days of the war Another example follows the wife and daughter of Lt Geoghegan, whose daughter had been born just before he left for Vietnam Lt Geoghegan was killed while trying to save one of his wounded men By a twist of fate, their names are together on the wall of the Vietnam memorial the man s name was Godboldt.This book is not for the weak of heart It will make you cry It will sometimes make you cheer It is an important book The story of these heroes in today s age of antiheroes, overpaid baseball players, and criminals allowed to continue to play college and professional sports, is inspiring Even though Vietnam has been forgotten and is rapidly fading into memory, while WWII remains the number one best seller I don t mind that, it deserves it, but American treatment of Vietnam and Korea has been disgraceful , there is an entire living generation of Americans and some Brits and Aussies and others, including the North and South Vietnamese who will never forget it until the day they die.A Note on the movie, We Were Soldiers, starring Mel Gibson The movie was very good and I remember a bunch of us watched it together at Fr Benning as we waited to leave for Iraq, but please don t substitute the film for the book The movie simply fails to capture the essence of the book It also leaves out the battle at LZ Albany entirely What really made the book powerful, and the movie failed at, was making these men real Only when people are real to us can we truly appreciate what they did That said, this is the only Vietnam movie that I have had a survivor of Ia Drang recommend as being an accurate portrayal of Vietnam My friend made my wife promise to watch it, and she hates war movies Perhaps he just wants people to know what he and his buddies went through before it is completely forgotten, or maybe he knows that most people just don t read books I don t know it is his business.


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