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10 thoughts on “Get In The Van: On The Road With Black Flag

  1. says:

    I think this has been one of the hardest books that I have read in a long time It isn t the writing that makes it hard, however, I will say that it is all taken from Henry s journal entries so the flow is rough No, the reason why it is such a hard read is that Henry s depression, self loathing and general hatred to the world is SO palpable that you can feel it wafting off the pages He literally gave everything he had to his music and performances that there was nothing left for himself or anything around him You also have to keep in mind that this was the punk scene throughout the 80s Black Flag is on the cover of magazines, Henry is considered a rockstar, and yet he lives in a shed when he is in LA Their shows are a mass of hatred and abuse literal, they are attacked, urine thrown at them, etc hurtled at them, they go hungry, they sleep in their bus or squat with fans It s insane and insanely hard to read how shitty the conditions were for a band that you absolutely love It s even harder to read that even despite that, being in the van and on the road and miserable is the only time that Henry ever really feels whole Too add insult to injury, it s also hard to read the inner thoughts of a musician that you love who is so addled with loathing, depression, and violence They aren t pretty thoughts..killing the pigs, killing the fans, killing the pigs families, mutilation of himself and others And as you go further in the years, it only gets worse Henry could have made an outstanding horror novelist Or serial killer Whichever Overall, this is an incredibly painful and real portrait of Henry s life at the time His thoughts are blunt and pretty flipping horrid at times There is no sugar coating of anything More like rusted barbwire coated Don t read this expecting to see a feel good story of a man s rise to fame It s not there You are actually really grateful that he got out of that van by the end of it It was an interesting ride while you were there though.

  2. says:

    I ve wanted to read Get In The Van since it was published sixteen years ago Getting around to it after all this time has proven to be a loopy experience When I was a teen, I was all about Black Flag I thought they were incredible Damaged, their first LP, was hard to take in and an immediate favorite Each chapter after that was an education Black Flag ruled I identified with the sum of the parts in a variety of ways I found it frightening as hell, too These guys were like demons to me, living in a small town in the late 80 s, having no reference Their music spoke to me and spooked me at the same time I identified with and was intimidated by the anger and the intellect I still listen to Black Flag a lot Reading Get In The Van was a revisitation A weird rewind.Rollins recollections of his time in the Flag are absolutely enthralling It was difficult not to skip his leaps into the abyss at the end of many entries but the rest of it, from sitting in the shed in the Ginns yard to touring the world really pulled me in.In fact, I wanted to know Having read this and Azerrad s Our Band Could Be Your Life, I find myself wanting very much to read a proper bio of Black Flag Azerrad s chapter on the Flag is a solid overview but lacks substance by its very nature as an overview Get In The Van is Rollins centric and there is almost no reflection of what anyone else was thinking I m pretty fascinated by Ginn and Dukowski and there were a bunch of characters involved with Black Flag over the years Maybe an oral history would be the way to go That would be a killer book The photos in Get In The Van are great You don t get shorted on imagery with this one, folks.A lot of people say Rollins is was an asshole I can see why, given the nature of the statements and stances he s taken over the years I just don t agree I identify with Rollins attitudes and reactions I would have felt the same way on a tour I wouldn t get enough time to myself, would get sick of everyone and would start to withdraw I d be disgusted with people s behavior I d be tired, pissed off and angry I believe, given the nature of the life he lead at the time, his background and upbringing, he did his best You can see him struggling right in the pages of this book, trying to figure out how to deal with the circumstances he was part of And, y know, this guy didn t react to the pressure by eating a bunch of drugs or blowing his head off He started a literary career and a publishing company, another band, did some acting I mean, I find that inspiring That s cool as hell.Rollins is a hero to me and this book cemented it Get in the van is my new mantra Get In The Van is great I read it so fast I m going to have to read it again Lookin forward to it.

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    10 01 18 Lockhart TX We will start with this Black Flag is one of my all time favorite bands They distilled hardcore into something tangible at a time when punk was reinventing itself for the second or third time Nobody is really counting Black Flag was the first of the hardcore bands to really embrace heavy metal and see the possibilities of taking one extreme form of music and melding it with another They were hardly the first crossover band, and they weren t really metal in any true sense of the word, but they foretold the future 10 03 18 Lockhart TX Get In The Van is one of the important rock n roll documents that you will ever read It s basically the tour diaries of Black Flag s lead singer, Henry Rollins, during his tenure in the band Rollins is a very intelligent and well spoken man He s also kind of a dick sometimes 10 05 18 Austin, TX I own two editions of Get In The Van I have the difficult to find first edition AND the equally as difficult to find second edition The second edition has the benefit of additional diary entries plus reproductions of a lot of the early show flyers drawn by Greg Ginn s brother, Raymond Pettibon The art itself makes owning the second edition essential, since Black Flag was itself a sort of performance art act Either way, I have both editions, and I m glad So there.10 06 18 Lockhart TX Get In The Van is not a history of Black Flag For that you will need to acquire author Stevie Chick s sprawling book Spray Paint the Walls I found a copy of that at a garage sale for 25 cents a couple of years ago That may be the best way to get ahold of the book Nothing is punk than buying a book about punk at a garage sale 10 08 18 Lockhart TX Jiminy Christmas, Henry Rollins is one fucked up dude The entries cover the moment when he entered the band in 1981 to its dissolution in 1986 I ll give Rollins credit, he was a meticulous observer of what was going on around him He manages to get most of the scene down on paper, and the whole thing just reads like a one man history of hardcore punk as it was evolving in the early to mid 1980s I ll say it like this..if you don t at least APPRECIATE what Black Flag was doing back in the day, then you have no business calling yourself a fan of punk rock music 10 13 18 Lockhart TX Henry Rollins has a bad case of self loathing, and a good portion of Get In The Van is Henry ranting about his various anger issues and other types of suicidal psychoses that he would get himself into a froth over He spent most of his non touring days living in guitarist Greg Ginn s garden shed This little space could not contain Rollins He longed for the road like most people long for a breath of fresh air Black Flag never made any money Henry was almost always broke Posers labeled him a rock star when he was eating dog food and living in a garden shed No wonder dude was angry 10 15 18 Cedar Park TX Man.there are times when I wanna slap Henry The man can be homophobic at times, insufferably miserable at other times, and a pity party this big can get tiring time and time again Then again..he notes the rise of Nazi punks at hardcore shows, both in Europe and in the States Skinheads trying to appropriate punk music is nothing new, but the level of aggressiveness and combativeness reached a nadir in the mid 80s That shit is STILL a problem at shows these days, and it s infected the metal community as well 10 18 18 Lockhart TX There is a big difference between East Coast Hardcore and West Coast Hardcore Black Flag was a California band through and through, though Rollins himself is from the D.C area The Flag took cues from surf culture and the whole Huntington Beach scene, even as Rollins brought a D.C style vibe that was founded in his time spent hanging around with the Bad Brains East Coast and New Yawk Hardcore took their cues from thrash metal and hip hop I don t even know why I m writing this You already should know this.10 22 18 Lockhart TX Gawd DAMN but Henry doesn t like Kira Roessler Which is a damn shame because she was the best bass player that Black Flag ever had, and I mean no disrespect to Chuck Dukowski Kira was an actual MUSICIAN, though, and her chemistry with Greg Ginn was unmistakable But Henry has a definite burr up his ass for Kira 10 25 18 Lockhart TX Rollins is really focused in this book..on Henry Rollins You are not going to find much here on his relationship with Greg Ginn or any other members of Black Flag beyond Chuck Dukowski Chuck and Henry were buds, and it s clear that Henry never really got past being the new singer thing even though he was around for Black Flag s glory days 10 26 18 Lockhart TX Van Halen s David Lee Roth was actually a fan of Black Flag That s not in the book, it s just an odd little bit of music trivia that I know FIGHT ME 10 28 18 Lockhart TX Yeah, this is another one of those reviews where I try to copy the style of the book I m reviewing I have no idea if this technique really works or it s just me being pretentious I don t care either way COME AT ME, BRO 10 30 18 Lockhart TX Ok, maybe reading this has made me a bit aggressive It s an aggressive book, written by a man with anger management issues and a death wish a mile wide Henry Rollins has since calmed down a lot After Black Flag broke up he went on to form The Rollins Band, which saw much commercial success than Black Flag ever did I think the music industry finally caught up a bit By the time Black Flag ended they had largely abandoned the structures of hardcore and added avant garde jazz influences to the music It was time to stop 10 31 18 Lockhart TX Buy the damn book if you get a chance It s rock history here, for Chrissakes Black Flag never sold a ton of records, but their influence as a band stretches far and wide Henry Rollins now does a lot of public speaking tours and the occasional book release He is a poet, an author a true entrepreneur I admire the shit out of the guy When he speaks, he speaks truths He is a fitness addict, an advocate for straight edge living, though he never really come out and said that he was straight edge Either way, he s around my age and I wish that I looked as good as he does That bastard Anyway Get In The Van is a rock history essential Go and buy it and read it or I will write to Henry and tell him that you blew him off He will likely show up at your door and try to beat you up If you don t own this book then you NEED to be beaten up Probably I dunno, man.lotta violence in the world No need to beat people up But you still need the damn book.

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    Best story Rollins writes about how he and another guy in his band might have been Greg Ginn are out on the road in some godforsaken place, have no money and are starving and want to go to this Wendy s type establishment to eat There s a salad bar there where the price is three dollars for all you can eat Their eyes light up and they run over, stacking mound upon mound of lettuce, tomatoes, cucumbers, etc till the plate is three feet high.The manager comes over and kind of pokes his head over to see what these two maniacs are doing, who are shoveling in the food as fast as they possibly can They look up glaring at the guy with big wads of salad dressing stuck to the ends of their mouths Rollins remarks something like when you haven t eaten in three days you get this kind of look in your eye.people leave you alone Priceless

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    I can t really take too much of Henry s self mythologizing, but this book chronicles the work that he ll be known for forever fronting Black Flag Working on Greg Ginn s farm wasn t easy and Henry s story is funny, bracing, and paints a staggering picture of young men overcoming unbelievable obstacles to push their rock band out into a very hostile world A must read for fans of 1980s American rock.

  6. says:

    Henry Rollins used to be Greg Ginn s prize white slave.

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    First off, I m biased I ve seen Henry Rollins with and without his backing band live over 25 times I never missed a tour until the last couple of years.How I got to the ripe old age of 34 without reading this book is beyond me That I never cracked the cover of this book other than to glance through it casually is the same phenomenon as never owning copies of those oh so many crucial albums that were put out in your youth you know, there were just so many other alternatives that you had to explore, instead of buying something that was painfully obvious and would always be around.This book contains Henry s first I presume writings, and it shows Henry Rollins isn t the greatest writer Even today, you can read his dispatches for free and most of them are as mundane as Facebook posts Further, most of the abstract content in the book the fictional or pseudo philosophical content displays his amateur mastery of his writing style, but in late 1985, early 1986 his writing gets a lot better.Some of this book is downright depressing and self righteous, but it is what it is Mr Rollins could have gotten laid and maybe cooled out a bit during 1984, or at least gotten over himself The book is what it is, though had I kept a journal in my 20s it would have read a lot like this book save that I was never a successful musician on tour We all go through teens twenties angst and we all mellow with age.What s extraordinary about this book is how it captures how little success meant, and how it makes the obvious point of how special Black Flag really was in the 1980s The band s music is timeless, to those people who understand it And how few people actually understood it is even amazing It s like being able to see the core of a star Black Flag was the unreachable white hot epicenter of the self immolating scene that was punk rock To the outsider, what shone from the surface was often vainly offensive, self destructive, violent, mindless and temporary Again, such is youth As Black Flag burnt out, so did American punk rock Bring on the Glam Rock The Poisons, the Motley Crues, the Bon Jovis The cases of cheap beer, bales of skunky weed and back seats full of pussy Bring on the oceans of girls with mall bangs and long haired guys in patched up jean jackets.No, thank you And to our benefit, the vacuous musical wasteland that was 1988 collapsed under its own excess, while Black Flag s influence underlaid the brief alternative respite that, thankfully, soured and collapsed under its own weight in record time in the early 90s People who make good music in today s post cool era know what s up Without the Flag, there would be no small record labels Without the DIY ethic of Black Flag, you wouldn t see small bands show up hundreds of miles from home in broken down vans at small clubs to play their hearts out in front of 150 people So, Mr Rollins, Mr Ginn, et al thank you for setting the ball in motion I have had access to a lot of great music growing up, all because of you And special thanks for capturing what life was like forging the path for all the good bands today in your tattered notebooks from cargo areas of Ryder trucks.

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    Okay, I m going with three stars here only because 2.5 isn t an option Get In the Van features three distinct categories 1 Rollins in the shed an actual shed behind Greg Ginn s house, if I m not mistaken, where he lives when not touring , 2 Rollins free associating through weird poems visual fantasies, and3 Black Flag tour diaries.The first and last are solid, sometimes than solid, but the second is bad embarrassing to the point where I skimmed most of them I can t give an unquivocal three stars to a book with significant although small, maybe 10% sections I couldn t stomach Those passages sound like the ramblings of a pissed off young person armed with a pen and notebook Well, Rollins was one of those, I guess, but Get in the Van is the book through which he purges himself of these juvenilia You can hear his voice develop over the book s five years he s processing fear, emotions, and scenarios that are still new His later work is better, sure, but Get in the Van s invaluable account of the Black Flag years is still worthwhile, especially if you skim the bad parts.

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    Not going to do a star rating for this one I got 20% in and remembered how much hated this historical moment I despised the rooms full of white boys grabbing women by their hair and breasts and genitals including me on several occasions, this is not second hand info , I hated watching them beat each other into unconsciousness I hated hearing their racist and homophobic shit at EVERY show many would not have considered themselves racist, but I saw a lot of people with Nazi Punks Fuck Off t shirts stay mute when vile things were said about people of color Mostly I hated the agreement to pretend that anger was a reasonable substitute for talent There are bands I love that came out of the hardcore scene, Husker Du, Flipper, Minutemen, Bad Brains, Fugazi though they are of a slightly different scene , but most of it was crap I never liked Black Flag and I still don t, though I saw 3 shows only because I had friends in bands that opened and will say the energy, though foul and testosterone soaked, was intense and I understood what people got from being in that room And also, Rollins is interesting and knows how to string words together So when I saw the eBook on Hoopla I checked this out Rollins woe is me, I am an oppressed white guy, the world is against me and my buds garbage grates even now than it did 30 years ago I have news for Henry, there are innocent people victimized by police every day in this country, and you and your other thrash pals are not those people He tells a story about his trusty roadie laughing when he saw a swastika spray painted on the hood of an old man s car The man shook his fist or something, and the roadie said, something like oh he probably thinks I am a skinhead Really, a tattooed guy with a shaved head who thinks swastikas are funny Guess what dude, you are a skinhead People petitioned to get you kicked out of their neighborhoods, cops rousted you, and people kicked you out of stores because you were violent thieving miscreants, not because they didn t like thrash Your pal Ian MacKaye and his wife Amy lived down the street from me in Arlington in the 90 s He was lovely, kept his house looking nice and free from hazards, and though he was recording Fugazi tracks there, sometimes audibly at reasonable times I certainly never heard of anyone trying to get him evicted It s not the music, it is that you and your friends often deserved it The amount of theft I saw committed in the name of thrash is staggering, and then you can throw in the property damage and the assault I also witnessed and that equals someone you don t want in your neighborhood I am not saying this chronicle of a scene is without value, or that Rollins does not capture the moment very well He does It s just not something I want to relive.

  10. says:

    So Henry Rollins is someone I want to spend the rest of my life with.Some think he is a complete asshole, which he is, but that does not bother me much bc it s henry fucking rollins Anyways if you had a childhood teenage blah blah life similar to my very own you love Black Flag Maybe you even have the bars tatted up on you.Their painful coolness is what punk rock dreams are based on, but this book shows you in some instances the mundane existence of a touring punk rock band from the 80s there are some really great stories and I think if you are a fan you will enjoy

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